Tuesday, December 09, 2008

This Week's In Color


tt.937, originally uploaded by Lloyd Dangle.

Here's this week's installment. It's one of those where I relate to both characters equally. Is that bad for an editorial cartoonist? I'm sure it is.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo Dangle,

this week's is so right on the money! You rock man! I have been asking people if they remember hat it felt like when Bill Clinton failed them after voting for him in 1992. There are so many ways it happened ... for me the Joycelyn Elders firing/rollover was the nail in the coffin that buried my progressive hopes, that revealed Clinton's weird hidden ties (just like the Senator from Illinois, I didn't know who the hell the Governor from Arkansas was tied to before I voted for him). Don't Ask, Don't Tell was idiotic, the promised healthcare never materialized and the worst off were f**ked by the Clinton's signing the Welfare Act of 1996 ... then came Homeland Security ... this was all before the election of 1996, when 9% of us in SF voted for Ralph (my sole presidential vote for Ralph). Democrats ARE a problem. and your analysis of the new crowd backing them is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. I am very worried for the poor and the growing unemployed. thank you, thank you, thank you.

10:41 AM  
Blogger madspammer said...

I couldn't disagree with you more. Perhaps I am not so naive as to believe that there is a presidential candidate that represents all of my political views since my political outlook is so marginalized that no candidate could win a majority of votes with that platform. The President of the United States does not only represent "progressive, " or "liberal," or "Conservative" or "Neo-Conservative" viewpoints. The President represents ALL Americans. If you are worried about your "progressive" ideals being betrayed - take a look at what the alternative is. How are your progressive ideals doing under a McCain administration? Even with Obama's "hawkish" picks do you imagine us waging a pre-emptive war against Iran any time soon? Do you suspect a laissez-fare approach to Wall Street? Not one day on the job, utter rubbish.

11:35 AM  
Blogger madspammer said...

I couldn't disagree with you more. Perhaps I am not so naive as to believe that there is a presidential candidate that represents all of my political views since my political outlook is so marginalized that no candidate could win a majority of votes with that platform. The President of the United States does not only represent "progressive, " or "liberal," or "Conservative" or "Neo-Conservative" viewpoints. The President represents ALL Americans. If you are worried about your "progressive" ideals being betrayed - take a look at what the alternative is. How are your progressive ideals doing under a McCain administration? Even with Obama's "hawkish" picks do you imagine us waging a pre-emptive war against Iran any time soon? Do you suspect a laissez-fare approach to Wall Street? Not one day on the job, utter rubbish.

11:36 AM  
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11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sean:

so glad you wrote.

I am not a naysayer, nor a progressive who feels betrayed.

I like Obama. and I am encouraged about the future of progressive thought [Bush has been a nightmare.

I was talking about my progressive ideals in 1991, not in 2008.

and I was trying to support what I saw as the point that
Obama and his supporters now face an assault by interests both within his party and from the opposition that will necessarily result in most people having to compromise. I think that is realpolitik and that being aware of it is imperative to the power struggle, if you will.

and that there is a well-defined history in the usa now of this ... and the people who do politics know it so well - they abuse it. cf. the Illinois Governor - a democrat.

and invariably the poorest suffer, because they have no lobby (hence my reference to the Welfare Act).

What I like about what Lloyd has done here is open the door for us to figure out how to agree on 'how to work on Obama/the democratic party.'

in order to step even further from Bush/Cheney/McCain/Palin/ etc ...

and to do what i think it is you also want to do ...

make change.

mtk

3:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ugh. Brilliant. I relate to both sides too. -AMcLn

6:00 PM  

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