Thursday, February 19, 2009

Your Comment Please


Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're waiting to see what Dangle says.

1:35 PM  
Anonymous george said...

one is an obvious joke, an amalgamation of all the scare tactics republicans were trying to use to help their candidate win, and the other is trying bring us back to the 1950's.

2:35 PM  
Blogger rcmpvern said...

The New Yorker cover illustration depicts the First Lady and the President as a Black Panther and an Osama bin Laden-type Terrorist.

The Black Panthers were considered to be dangerous terrorists by the U.S. government and Establishment types back in the 1960s, which is why it was "OK" to use extraordinary means to kill and imprison some of them.
Our fear of Osama bin Laden and other Muslim terrorists is legendary.
The New York Post cartoon depicts President Obama as a monkey.
Depicting someone as a Monkey is a common insult used by White America to dehumanize and ridicule non-White races.
Japanese were depicted as monkeys in 1940s cartoons.

So, I would say the New Yorker cover is supposed to trigger fear and hatred, and the monkey cartoon is meant to dehumanize and ridicule.

2:54 PM  
Blogger Lloyd Dangle said...

On one you'd have to be an ignoramus not to get it, the other you'd be an ignoramus to be the audience it's intended for.

2:55 PM  
Blogger rcmpvern said...

If the audience of the New Yorker is just the upper-crust intellectuals who it was meant for in 1925, then I would give it a pass.
Since then, there is a new thing called the Internet.

High-quality images of the New Yorker cover can be broadcast world-wide on Right-Wing or White Supremacist sites, just as the cartoon was.

So while I understand the "inside joke" intent of the New Yorker intellectuals, I still think it was in poor taste, and they knew that it would be used by others to promote hatred.

3:09 PM  
Blogger Lloyd Dangle said...

That's well stated, rcmpvern. So once it's ripped away from its context on the cover of the intellectual NYer, the irony is lost and the same image can be viewed by others as racist propaganda.

Interesting point.

BTW the ignoramus comment I made wasn't in response to you. We were both writing at the same time.

3:39 PM  
Blogger rcmpvern said...

Thanks, Lloyd.

I can't believe I forgot to mention that the NY Post cartoon and caption also depicts an assassination.

That is the most glaring obscenity of the cartoon.

11:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the 1960s, the same New York Times was calling Malcom X a preacher of hate, portraying to the public that he was a troublemaker, when all he wanted to do was help uplift the masses of the black people in america from the enemy, the oppressor who today still keeps the people trapped in ghettos selling and using drugs that the U.S. Government put there.
And, so the same New York Times that were racist in the 1960s, are still racist today. They're just too afraid to speak their minds now, so they try to come off as if their racism is only an act of humor.

7:11 AM  

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